Sunday, November 21, 2004

I am involved with the Campaign for Civil Unions (Auckland) Inc.
One of the things that we have done in support of the legislation pertaining to the Civil Union Bill and Relationship (Statutory References) Bill is to take out an add in todays Sunday Star Times. It was funded by donations from the people who put there names to it.

I just wanted to say thank you to all those who added their name and stood up for a more tolerant and fair New Zealand. I also wanted to say well done to the rest of the Campaign team for all their hard work, especially Michael Wallmansberger. Well done.

This is a critical stage for the legislation, we are coming up to the 2nd and 3rd readings of the bill. Its really important that the MPs know that the legislation has broad public support. Please go and visit your MP and/or write to them letting them know that these bills have wide public support.
More information can be found at


  • As a gay man I'm sad to see you helping support the formal introduction of a second class citizenship into New Zealand law.

    Falling between the cracks in existing legislation is one thing, but legislating that I can be on the bus only if I sit at the back, but heteros can sit anywhere, is not the sort of legislation I like.

    By Blogger Brian (Shadowfoot), at 1:33 pm  

  • shadowfoot - It is commonly accepted (and I believe) that a gay-marriage bill, if proposed, would not pass in the current political climate.

    Assuming you accept that, the only relevant question then becomes this: Does the Civil Union bill make it more or less likely that a gay-marriage bill will come into law in the near future.

    I believe that yes, it makes it more likely that gay-marriage will be legalised in the near future. Of course the CUB is inadequate, but it is better than the status quo, and it does bode well for the future. That is why I support the CUB.

    Conor - Congrats to you and all others involved. Keep up the good work!

    By Blogger Asher, at 3:40 pm  

  • I believe that passing the CUB will delay the introduction of marriage rights. I also believe that while a lot of heterosexuals talk about preferring a civil union to a marriage, when the time comes they will choose marriage. One of the factors of this will be in how a relationship is perceived when entering foreign ports.

    More importantly, the introduction of second class status is a very bad precedent.

    By Blogger Brian (Shadowfoot), at 4:55 pm  

  • As a gay man AND someone who worked on the Civil Unions campaign with Conor, I would have to completely disagree with the statement that Civil Unions are a second class citizenship deal. Marriage is inferior to
    Civil Unions as an institution - it is steeped in archaic notions of Victorian property rights and I wouldn't have a bar of it if I could. We had the opportunity to create something new AND BETTER in this country, and that's what we're doing.

    By Blogger Xavier, at 5:39 pm  

  • As a straight girl, I would happily sign up for a civil union if I could find someone worth doing it with. Personally I think that marriage is an antiquated property transfer and want something more modern.

    By Blogger Stephanie, at 2:11 am  

  • Personally, I will not get a civil union - for starters, chances are I won't be in New Zealand when I settle down, and besides which, I like the idea of having a culturally Jewish marriage.

    I believe that the CUB will act as a flow on type of effect into gay marriage - we will quickly get to the stage where CU's are considered "normal", and once that is reached, it is not a big step to gay marriage.

    By Blogger Asher, at 2:01 pm  

  • As a straight white fat coca-cola drinking man, because we have to qualify our arguments with who we are, I believe the whole institution of marriage should be dumped and civil unions be the default arrangement, and if somebody wants a marriage they have to get it from a religous institution.

    This would make sure the government was not deciding the outcome, and people could exercise real freedom.

    By Blogger Moneo, at 2:23 am  

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